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ulx crashban: Why it's NOT illegal, and you're fine to use it.

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Stickly Man!:
To clarify for anyone who may not be aware, 'ulx crashban' is a (or one of many) third-party ULX commands that we do not have any control over. It is not included in standard ULX at all.

Expanding on Mr. President's post with an example, servers can also dump thousands of files in your data folder while playing:
https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1511447

Timmy:

--- Quote from: Stickly Man! on March 28, 2016, 07:55:18 AM ---Servers can also dump thousands of files in your data folder while playing.
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This is also what ULX crashban does. Writes 2,4 GB of useless data to a player's hard drive... The command is part of ULX Extended, which is being sold on ScriptFodder.



Smh.

Stickly Man!:
Yeesh :( That does make me sad. Thanks for bringing that up, Timmy!

Bubbie:

--- Quote from: MrPresident on March 27, 2016, 09:19:24 AM ---Why did you create an account just to post this?

It may not be illegal, but it is overly excessive and we're not going to condone that kind of thing.
There are plenty of things you CAN do but shouldn't as a server owner.

To name a few:
Rebind players' keys. (Yes, you used to be able to do this)
Crash their client or run quit on them (You also used to be able to do this)
Activate their mic without their knowledge and listen to them talk.

In my opinion, no reputable servers would ever do anything like this. There's no reason and all you're doing is being a bully because you think it's funny.

What's the difference between banning someone and banning someone while crashing their client other than causing them more frustration.

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Sadly all three of those things have been used on me and I've seen them being used on others many times.
Luckily all of the servers I have seen these on have died due to a lack of popularity.

LuaTenshi:
A little late to the party but first of Vim is a nice abusive relationship, and second...

I feel that crashing players only makes them angrier then if they would be if you had just banned them, this could lead to a ton of unforeseen consequences.
Honestly I think the best course of action is to actually talk to players in a more calm environment you would be surprised how many rule breakers can become good friends.

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