ULX Group Inheritance

[DrCheesepuffs]

I want to get a better idea of setting up group inheritance. I know there are many posts regarding this, but I could not find anything about this question:

Which method is better (more recommended)?

admin
Inherits from moderator
Can target: !%admin

or

admin
Inherits from moderator
Can target: #user, #moderator

Also, sometimes when I do something like !%admin, players with the rank admin can still target each other, I thought !% meant you cannot target that group or above?

[Undercover Orange]

Pretty sure !%admin just means they cant target anyone above admin. at least that is how it works on my server.

[OpticPotatOS]

!%admin would mean that players in that group can target admin and below. Method wise, depends on what you're trying to do, for example, you might not want a trial moderator to be able to target donators, even though donators are below trial mods.

[DrCheesepuffs]

Ohhhhh lol. So for admin rank I would make it !%moderator, rather than !%admin?

[OpticPotatOS]

Ohhhhh lol. So for admin rank I would make it !%moderator, rather than !%admin?

Yes, and for moderator you would do, for example, !%donator.

[Bytewave]

!%admin would mean that players in that group can target admin and below. Method wise, depends on what you're trying to do, for example, you might not want a trial moderator to be able to target donators, even though donators are below trial mods.

No, I believe this is wrong.
Read the syntax of that again.
!%admin
Not group admin and above.
! - invert (not)
% - this group and groups above

So, DrCheesepuffs, you would want !%admin to say that admin can only target groups below admin, ie moderator and below.
See http://forums.ulyssesmod.net/index.php/topic,5346.0.html

[OpticPotatOS]

No, I believe this is wrong.
Read the syntax of that again.
!%admin
Not group admin and above.
! - invert (not)
% - this group and groups above

So, DrCheesepuffs, you would want !%admin to say that admin can only target groups below admin, ie moderator and below.
See http://forums.ulyssesmod.net/index.php/topic,5346.0.html

That's weird, doesn't work like that on my server.

[roastchicken]

No, I believe this is wrong.
Read the syntax of that again.
!%admin
Not group admin and above.
! - invert (not)
% - this group and groups above

So, DrCheesepuffs, you would want !%admin to say that admin can only target groups below admin, ie moderator and below.
See http://forums.ulyssesmod.net/index.php/topic,5346.0.html

That's weird, doesn't work like that on my server.

I can confirm that Bytewave is correct. The default ULX group 'operator' has its 'Can Target' set to "!%admin". When in the 'operator' group, I cannot target players in group 'admin' or above.

[DrCheesepuffs]

How come when I do something like:

Rank: admin
Inherits from: moderator
Can target: !%admin

It doesn't work? Admins can still kick and ban other admin.